LB: No, I just wanted to take some pictures that somebody who was good would look at and say, "Yeah, that's a good picture." And I had this idea later on to work on a book about poetry with photos to go along with the poems. Classic poems, like Robert Frost or whatever. So I began to work on that and I put together about a hundred layouts that I thought were pretty good, and I took them back to a man in New York who is very much an expert. And he thumbed through them and said, "Yeah, they're good -- for an amateur." And it just killed me. I thought, "What a brutal world." And I was upset for a few days and then I thought, "I just need to get better." And I had so enjoyed Andrew -- he could be very direct but he wasn't mean about it. He could help you without you feeling dismantled. So I called his agent and said, "I'd like to hire Andrew, not to take pictures but to teach me how to take pictures." And after several weeks Andrew agreed to do it, and roughly once a month I would go back to his studio in New York with my photographs and he would critique them: "This one's no good, this one's no good," and then, "that's pretty good." Nothing ever got into the "very good" pile! And then he would teach me. He'd say, "Here's what you did wrong, you got lazy on this shot," or "the light was wrong." And over time, a few pictures got over on the "really good" pile.