When you took your American journey, you were engaging with the Robert Frank narrative, the frontier narrative, the West. When you took your European trip, what was on your mind?
I was young enough to want to know something about myself in the world at large outside of my comfort zone. I wanted to go to a place where I didn't speak the language, where I didn't know the culture or the kinds of activities that went on or the significance of gesture, for example. You know, when you travel throughout America — you travel to Texas or Southern California or Minnesota — you're recognized. Even though they're regionally different and maybe even the jargon or the way of framing your ideas is slightly different because it's a different state, nonetheless, you're recognized because you're an American. There's a kind of consistency. But you take yourself and throw yourself into another culture, by living with Gypsies in Spain, lets say, as I did for six months during the trip, and everything is new. I really wanted to get away from my familiar tactics and my familiar understanding of the American system, the American way of life, to see what the rest of the world looked like and what it would teach me about myself. That's the real adventure, to see how much you can change.