Well, for the shows I go to, I meant they’re all small punk shows—a big show for me is 500 people. I know the photographers so it’s pretty collegial. There are two other people who take pictures at a lot of the shows I go to, and we kinda coordinate, to make sure that we’re not in each other’s way. Still, I don’t consider myself a rock photographer so much. I wanted to be a rock photographer, and I wanted to shoot for music magazines, then I learned two things. First, music magazines don’t run live photos very much. Along with that, when you think of rock photography, it’s portraiture, which I haven’t done enough of. So that was a rude awakening for me—I wanted to shoot for record labels and Rolling Stone, but I didn't have a portrait portfolio, so they weren't interested.