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Advanced Compact Shoot Out: P7000, G12 and LX5

Somehow I'm not surprised this is the best of the bunch. Thank you for the breakdown and analysis.

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wow, what a waste of time.....subjects shoot dull, whole story told us absolutely nothing.

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What's the point of having a "shoot out" with no winners, losers and a numerical evaluation? You might as well have called the article "a cursory examination". Also, on what is an expensive camera (they are on the lower edge of the DSLR market by only about a hundred bucks); no mention of shutter lag is unforgiveable.

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Pick any one. They all seem crappy.

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Pop Photo Team:
Disappointing article.
I expect better work and reporting from you. The photography examples are not very helpful...it looks like you had about 1 hour on a cloudy overcast day to "wing it" with some thrown together photos. Where are photos of human faces? (The photo type taken by most people.) Where are photos showing sun/shadow contrast? Where are photos showing shots in low light/evening?
Separate from the photography - the writing leaves the reader wondering if you have any complete opinion at all. We want to hear your opinion of the photo quality (both objective and subjective)...the camera? is it worth it, would you buy it, etc...that is why we subscribe to you.
You are much better at photographic reporting than what you are showing us here.
Best regards,
Doug

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I was looking forward to reading this article. However, i am very disappointed in the content. The photo comparisons are very poor with no attempt to compare photos side by side. I also think portrait pictures would have been a good idea. Cheers Jay

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This is not a helpful article. Providing you are experts checking camera performance, we had expected you gave your conclusions in any situation and not just post the pictures.
It looks like, or you don't have an opinion or that you prefer not saying it.

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Generally a good review but it amazes me that you guy/gals will look at a design compromise, and relish the benefit while attacking the sacrifice. E.g. you love that a camera is small and sleek, but hate that it doesnt have a big rubber grip and the tripod mount is off-center. That is two sides of the same coin. You either agree with the compromise the designers took, or you don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too - take a side!

On a more positive note - it's nice to see some New Jersey resident's reading up on How to be a Gentleman.

Cheers.

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I appreciate your review of these three compacts. The choice I make will be determined by the features that are important for the shooter not the one that the editors think is the best. If fitting it into a pocket is important I'll make a different choice than if a rubber grip is important. You've pointed out pros and cons of different features not buying the camera for us.

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And the winner is ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

99% of what I look for in a camera any camera is the overall image quality....the other 1% is *&@$#^%^^%#

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I liked the Toshiba. You should too.

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As others have said, this article is silliness. Poorly written, poorly organized, and basically pretty useless. I truly believe that this kind of stuff will keep appearing here unless people respond with comments and pound articles like this into the ground. Come on. Improve the quality!

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And get rid of the damn 3.8X, 4X and 7X zoom nomenclature. Tell us if it is 24-90mm, 28-120mm or 35-250mm equivelant!

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Lots of complaints about the article here.

Folks, get used to it. The best part of Pop Photo was Herb Keppler, and when that great old guy passed away the magazine started slipping badly. I've been a subscriber for more years than I can remember, still have a year or so left on my subscription, but I'm not sure I'll renew anymore unless they get rid of the feckless amateurs and start hiring more people who actually know something about cameras and photography.

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Contrary to those comments which allege that the photos are not very helpful, they vividly demonstrate (especially the last page), that even having a Leica f2 lens doesn't do anything to control depth of field on these compacts -- unlike a DSLR. So if you want more control over your images...

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Why do you just concentrate on factory default settings. Really useful would be some comparison/analysis of the variable functions and adjustments allowed by each camera and how they can affect your shooting. You pretty much compare these advanced, multi-faceted cameras as if they were all simple point and shoots for people who want everything on automatic, precisely the audience that these cameras are not aimed at. In my opinion, you miss/downplay/ignore the real excitement or appeal of these units--for better or worse.

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I hope the Manual controls on the Canon G12 are a lot better than on their G10. Mine was useless as a street Camera also terrible Shutter lag, the G10 no better than a $100 point and shoot .I'll stick with My 20D and 40D.

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Thanks for this comparison. I look forward to your full evaluation, especially on the LX5.

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"Don't expect the LX5 to perform like the M9, it wont"....Duh. Look at the $$$$x5 price difference. What a brilliantly stupid statement.

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I am missing the page on conclusions and recommendations. Or was it not written?

Look, you either go as thorough as DPReview and come-up with professional authors that can write and defend their conclusions, or your continue with a bunch of parttimers, dont invest in studio equipment but half the subscription price.

This article gives barely more information than a 3-liner with links to the Nikon, Pana and canon web-sites.

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You posters are pathetic. This guy took the time to show the actual results of three cameras. If you are such a limp wrist that you need to have someone tell you the winning score before you buy a camera, you should just ask Mommy and Daddy to decide. I for one appreciate the effort and can compare and make my own decisions, which was for the Nikon.

Unless you paid to read his review, quit your whining you bunch of puss***!

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Somehow I'm not surprised this is the best of the bunch. Thank you for the breakdown and analysis.

0 Good Comment? yes no

wow, what a waste of time.....subjects shoot dull, whole story told us absolutely nothing.

0 Good Comment? yes no

What's the point of having a "shoot out" with no winners, losers and a numerical evaluation? You might as well have called the article "a cursory examination". Also, on what is an expensive camera (they are on the lower edge of the DSLR market by only about a hundred bucks); no mention of shutter lag is unforgiveable.

0 Good Comment? yes no

Pick any one. They all seem crappy.

0 Good Comment? yes no

Pop Photo Team:
Disappointing article.
I expect better work and reporting from you. The photography examples are not very helpful...it looks like you had about 1 hour on a cloudy overcast day to "wing it" with some thrown together photos. Where are photos of human faces? (The photo type taken by most people.) Where are photos showing sun/shadow contrast? Where are photos showing shots in low light/evening?
Separate from the photography - the writing leaves the reader wondering if you have any complete opinion at all. We want to hear your opinion of the photo quality (both objective and subjective)...the camera? is it worth it, would you buy it, etc...that is why we subscribe to you.
You are much better at photographic reporting than what you are showing us here.
Best regards,
Doug

0 Good Comment? yes no

I was looking forward to reading this article. However, i am very disappointed in the content. The photo comparisons are very poor with no attempt to compare photos side by side. I also think portrait pictures would have been a good idea. Cheers Jay

0 Good Comment? yes no

This is not a helpful article. Providing you are experts checking camera performance, we had expected you gave your conclusions in any situation and not just post the pictures.
It looks like, or you don't have an opinion or that you prefer not saying it.

0 Good Comment? yes no

Generally a good review but it amazes me that you guy/gals will look at a design compromise, and relish the benefit while attacking the sacrifice. E.g. you love that a camera is small and sleek, but hate that it doesnt have a big rubber grip and the tripod mount is off-center. That is two sides of the same coin. You either agree with the compromise the designers took, or you don't. You can't have your cake and eat it too - take a side!

On a more positive note - it's nice to see some New Jersey resident's reading up on How to be a Gentleman.

Cheers.

0 Good Comment? yes no

I appreciate your review of these three compacts. The choice I make will be determined by the features that are important for the shooter not the one that the editors think is the best. If fitting it into a pocket is important I'll make a different choice than if a rubber grip is important. You've pointed out pros and cons of different features not buying the camera for us.

0 Good Comment? yes no

And the winner is ! ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

99% of what I look for in a camera any camera is the overall image quality....the other 1% is *&@$#^%^^%#

0 Good Comment? yes no

I liked the Toshiba. You should too.

0 Good Comment? yes no

As others have said, this article is silliness. Poorly written, poorly organized, and basically pretty useless. I truly believe that this kind of stuff will keep appearing here unless people respond with comments and pound articles like this into the ground. Come on. Improve the quality!

0 Good Comment? yes no

And get rid of the damn 3.8X, 4X and 7X zoom nomenclature. Tell us if it is 24-90mm, 28-120mm or 35-250mm equivelant!

0 Good Comment? yes no

Lots of complaints about the article here.

Folks, get used to it. The best part of Pop Photo was Herb Keppler, and when that great old guy passed away the magazine started slipping badly. I've been a subscriber for more years than I can remember, still have a year or so left on my subscription, but I'm not sure I'll renew anymore unless they get rid of the feckless amateurs and start hiring more people who actually know something about cameras and photography.

0 Good Comment? yes no

Contrary to those comments which allege that the photos are not very helpful, they vividly demonstrate (especially the last page), that even having a Leica f2 lens doesn't do anything to control depth of field on these compacts -- unlike a DSLR. So if you want more control over your images...

0 Good Comment? yes no

Why do you just concentrate on factory default settings. Really useful would be some comparison/analysis of the variable functions and adjustments allowed by each camera and how they can affect your shooting. You pretty much compare these advanced, multi-faceted cameras as if they were all simple point and shoots for people who want everything on automatic, precisely the audience that these cameras are not aimed at. In my opinion, you miss/downplay/ignore the real excitement or appeal of these units--for better or worse.

0 Good Comment? yes no

I hope the Manual controls on the Canon G12 are a lot better than on their G10. Mine was useless as a street Camera also terrible Shutter lag, the G10 no better than a $100 point and shoot .I'll stick with My 20D and 40D.

0 Good Comment? yes no

Thanks for this comparison. I look forward to your full evaluation, especially on the LX5.

0 Good Comment? yes no

"Don't expect the LX5 to perform like the M9, it wont"....Duh. Look at the $$$$x5 price difference. What a brilliantly stupid statement.

0 Good Comment? yes no

I am missing the page on conclusions and recommendations. Or was it not written?

Look, you either go as thorough as DPReview and come-up with professional authors that can write and defend their conclusions, or your continue with a bunch of parttimers, dont invest in studio equipment but half the subscription price.

This article gives barely more information than a 3-liner with links to the Nikon, Pana and canon web-sites.

0 Good Comment? yes no

You posters are pathetic. This guy took the time to show the actual results of three cameras. If you are such a limp wrist that you need to have someone tell you the winning score before you buy a camera, you should just ask Mommy and Daddy to decide. I for one appreciate the effort and can compare and make my own decisions, which was for the Nikon.

Unless you paid to read his review, quit your whining you bunch of puss***!

0 Good Comment? yes no
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