JM: Exactly. Originally, we were going to show just the Disciples images at the exhibition. Then I thought, you know, the apes would be brilliant with the rock fans. Plus, I've never really shown the ape images much in America. When I did that work, I signed a contract with the British Natural History Museum to show the work -- and I'm glad I did it, because so many people were able to view the images. I think in London something like 250,000 people viewed the images the first day they went up. But the problem was that the fine-art world can be kind of snobby, and a lot of art people dismissed the work as wildlife pictures. People want to categorize you in photography. Hopefully, with this new work, and the Pablo Escobar book, I'll be seen for what I am.